|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 14, 2008 1:07:41 GMT -5
It seemed like an appropriate subject to start this section off on. My personal stance is support. I believe that every human has certain rights that cannot and definately SHOULD NOT be taken away. One of these rights is the right to love. What should it matter if they love a man or woman? Your thoughts on this?
|
|
Mattocks
Stand in Mayor[M:1000000000]
International Man of Mystery
Posts: 353
|
Post by Mattocks on Aug 14, 2008 14:21:47 GMT -5
Honestly, if you don't like homosexuality, I don't care, but I see no reason to stop homosexualy from getting married. The sactity of marriage" isn't that it's vetween a man and a woman, it's that it's between two people who love each other, and occasionaly want a tax break:P. Not allowing gay mariage will not reduce the number of homosexuals, it will just bring more attention to them because it will always be an issue in debates, news and polotics untill people just accept it, and allow it slide by unnoticed.
|
|
|
Post by William on Aug 22, 2008 20:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah, really. Why does it matter?
|
|
Mattocks
Stand in Mayor[M:1000000000]
International Man of Mystery
Posts: 353
|
Post by Mattocks on Aug 24, 2008 14:02:39 GMT -5
I've thought about this many times, and I think the only explination I can come up with is just that people are afraid that acknowleding homosexuality will turn them and the whole world gay, wich will ultimatly lead to the end of mankind.
|
|
|
Post by William on Aug 24, 2008 19:15:15 GMT -5
I suppose. But doubt it.
|
|
Mattocks
Stand in Mayor[M:1000000000]
International Man of Mystery
Posts: 353
|
Post by Mattocks on Aug 24, 2008 19:49:45 GMT -5
So do I, but I realy can't think of any other reason.
|
|
|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 25, 2008 1:29:18 GMT -5
Homophobia?
|
|
|
Post by mejustin on Aug 25, 2008 17:53:01 GMT -5
I am neutral on the matter. I can see where those opposed are coming from, (mostly religious or homophobic people; this is meant to be non offensive). Most religious people opposed to the idea believe that marriage is only sacred between a man and a woman, as their religious texts depict. However, I can also see the point to legalizing gay marriage, I suppose love is love, regardless of gender. If there were an "in-between" choice, such as allowing gays to be acknowledged as a couple, but unable to participate in marital vows, I would probably back it. :S
I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE!
|
|
|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 25, 2008 18:05:45 GMT -5
Several states have an "in between" choice, most are pretty divided.
|
|
Mattocks
Stand in Mayor[M:1000000000]
International Man of Mystery
Posts: 353
|
Post by Mattocks on Aug 25, 2008 23:02:32 GMT -5
For inbetween, see: Butt Buddies;). the problem with the religious debate is that not every religion is anti-homosexuality. This means that if people of those religions are still allowed to be married, there is no reason homosexuals shouldn't. Also, a religious mariage, is different from a legal one. A couple can be legaly married with no religious involvement whatsoever.
Also, just a funny thing to note, the last two times I've been on this page, the ad has been for gay singles:P.
|
|
|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 26, 2008 0:50:47 GMT -5
Heh, Irony. I'm actually working on getting rid of those adds, and all adds to boot.
I've always followed a "live and let live" philosophy, and since there is no proof (scientific or otherwise) that homosexuality is "destroying America", then I have no problem with it. Homophobia is the main reason for these kind of things.
|
|
|
Post by mejustin on Aug 26, 2008 14:56:26 GMT -5
The problem I have is that people won't "live and let live", if gay marriage is legalized throughout the U.S., its safe to say people would get violent. (I have nothing against gay marriage, its just what I foresee happening if it is blatantly introduced into the law.)
|
|
|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 26, 2008 15:07:05 GMT -5
Oh trust me, I know what you mean. I've seen first hand the results of ignorance. But it's not a legitimate reason to not let a group of people have freedom. At least not in my opinion, since that's really all any of this is.
|
|
Mattocks
Stand in Mayor[M:1000000000]
International Man of Mystery
Posts: 353
|
Post by Mattocks on Aug 27, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -5
The problem I have is that people won't "live and let live", if gay marriage is legalized throughout the U.S., its safe to say people would get violent. (I have nothing against gay marriage, its just what I foresee happening if it is blatantly introduced into the law.) I'm not saying that wouldn't happen, but that's like saying if a ref calls this penatly which could cause that team to loose, things could get voilent. That doesn't mean the ref shouldn't call the penalty. Also, the ads must be perminant on each page, literaly every time I'm on this one it's the gay singles. Still funny though:P
|
|
|
Post by Sage_of_fire on Aug 27, 2008 9:34:57 GMT -5
I think it google capturing the "Gay marriage" title.
That's a good analogy I suppose, it makes sense at least.
|
|
|
Post by mejustin on Aug 27, 2008 14:54:16 GMT -5
The problem I have is that people won't "live and let live", if gay marriage is legalized throughout the U.S., its safe to say people would get violent. (I have nothing against gay marriage, its just what I foresee happening if it is blatantly introduced into the law.) I'm not saying that wouldn't happen, but that's like saying if a ref calls this penatly which could cause that team to loose, things could get voilent. That doesn't mean the ref shouldn't call the penalty. Also, the ads must be perminant on each page, literaly every time I'm on this one it's the gay singles. Still funny though:P Very true, I have no point to argue in return.
|
|
Vector
AKA Zeldace[M:0]
Giggity.
Posts: 20
|
Post by Vector on Jan 31, 2009 18:11:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty much one sided on this. I have never seen (Nor expect to see) Any good reason, either religion based or not, that homosexuality or Gay marraige is either wrong or unethical. As for the "Marraige is only sacred between a man and a woman" argument, Nothing really differs at all apart from the gender. I doubt highly that there is some reason in these "texts" That states any reason why the gender being different maintains the sacredness of a marraige. If something were to be written in the bible that said "Overweight/obese people are impure" Christian people wouldn't go out and stab everyone that's fat, would they? (Sorry i couldn't come up with a better example =.=) If there's no good reason behind something, then it shouldn't be enforced on the general public and lead to other people's misfortune/disadvantage.
And of course (Ontop of the fact that choosing to be a homosexual would not be wrong in any way, if possible), Homosexuality is not a choice. People can not choose who they love, and any god who is supposed to uphold all laws on this earth in a righteous manner would be able to respect that, and not say it is wrong or not sacred, or whatever it does say without a good reason behind it. That's equal to discrimination, and no sort of god that is portrayed as fair or ethical would discriminate. My point standing, Homophobia and Gay marraige bans have no reason to them, and Gay people have as much right to get married than men and women. ~Vector
|
|